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The wider philosophical point is, if a man has gender dysphoria, does that mean he is a woman, or just wants to be a woman?

If the latter, there should be no issue in a satirical publication making the point that a man who wants to be a woman getting awarded a "Woman of the Year" accolade is nonsensical.



Like I said, low-effort humor at the expense of marginalized people is just bullying. You can read a lot into the Bees "joke" but none of it is there. It's just low-effort and doesn't speak to any larger social issues.

The editors shouldn't go to jail, but its obviously the type of hate content that will drive away users and advertisers and twitter was wise to ban it. It adds nothing to the discussion.


Someone appointed to a highly responsible and prestigious government role after a highly successful career, as Levine has, can hardly be described as marginalized.

The Bee's article is more broadly a commentary on how accolades intended for women are now going to men who identify as women - which rather undermines the point of having such awards in the first place. The humor is in inverting this:

"The Babylon Bee has selected Rachel Levine as its first annual Man of the Year. Levine is the U.S. assistant secretary for health for the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, where he serves proudly as the first man in that position to dress like a western cultural stereotype of a woman."

Criticizing male dominance like this is very much a 'punching up' type of comedy.


>Someone appointed to a highly responsible and prestigious government role after a highly successful career, as Levine has, can hardly be described as marginalized.

Only if you are completely clueless on what marginalization means, which by the rest of your comment, it appears you are.


> Only if you are completely clueless on what marginalization means, which by the rest of your comment, it appears you are.

It would make for a more substantive discussion if you explained why you disagree with my comment - could you elaborate further?


Sure, let's start with what marginalized means.

": to relegate (see relegate sense 2) to an unimportant or powerless position within a society or group"

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/marginalize

Trans people, especially trans women are treated poorly. They have less economic opportunity, have a high incidence of being victims of crime, and face violence from society.

Being successful in spite of being marginalized doesn't somehow magically make you no longer marginalized.

Just like there are successful Black people, but they still experience systemic and social racism. Success doesn't magically change that.

I'm guessing you don't believe in systemic racism though, so its probably a non-starter


There’s absolutely nothing hateful about such a simple objective statement of truth.




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