> How much “skills development” do you think you will achieve by going against your manager’s goals? You won’t last long enough at the company to do too much of anything.
Why are you speaking in binaries? I don't think anyone here is advocating "going against your manager's goals".
Not "focusing overly on pleasing your manager" is very different from "going against your manager's goals". There's a lot of area in between. And my experience in a big company that's not a startup: In most cases not focusing on pleasing your manager will not result in a job loss, and most managers simply do not expect to have more than 1 or 2 people in the team who'll focus on pleasing them.
And if you are in a situation where not overly pleasing your manager means losing your job, then you and your parent are in agreement. What he said:
> It's worth putting up with bad working conditions in exchange for learning opportunities, but not for mere money.
What you said:
> If your manager is of the type that stunts your skills development, it’s time to leave the company.
Which was why I was wondering if you meant to respond to someone other than kragen.
Why are you speaking in binaries? I don't think anyone here is advocating "going against your manager's goals".
Not "focusing overly on pleasing your manager" is very different from "going against your manager's goals". There's a lot of area in between. And my experience in a big company that's not a startup: In most cases not focusing on pleasing your manager will not result in a job loss, and most managers simply do not expect to have more than 1 or 2 people in the team who'll focus on pleasing them.
And if you are in a situation where not overly pleasing your manager means losing your job, then you and your parent are in agreement. What he said:
> It's worth putting up with bad working conditions in exchange for learning opportunities, but not for mere money.
What you said:
> If your manager is of the type that stunts your skills development, it’s time to leave the company.
Which was why I was wondering if you meant to respond to someone other than kragen.