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> What is the correct procedure for this?

in general to work on something that will get "into the rust compiler" it needs at least an RFC and then a Major Change Proposal [0]

in practice it starts with asking on zulip [1]

[0] https://forge.rust-lang.org/compiler/proposals-and-stabiliza...

[1] https://forge.rust-lang.org/how-to-start-contributing.html


Asking on zulip is the good first step, yes. But RFC or MCP is only needed for bigger changes. Majority of changes will not need that, especially the ones contributed by newcomers.


> 4B or "Four Nos" is a South Korean radical feminist[1] movement whose proponents do not date men, marry men, have sex with men, or have children with men.

huh... is that really feminism? or just homosexuality / asexuality?


This is civilization-level apoptosis. The civilization detects that it is broken and makes room for a properly functioning one to take over.

I'd say it's more citizen-level apoptosis. These women are the ones exiting the gene pool, not the whole civilization.

But also 4B is an outsized meme especially in the west. It's like furries. We all know about them, but they are not typical people who you can draw conclusions about the civilization from.


The women aren't the ones detecting they have something wrong with them. They are detecting there is something wrong with the next level up, and shutting down that whole thing. Like an apoptosis gene triggered by excessive misfolded proteins.

But in reality they aren't "shutting down that whole thing", they are shutting down their personal lineage and not much else. The women might not be conscious of something wrong with themselves, but if they were cells in a body, their behavior would not indicate the body is sick, only that they are.

Current fertility rate in South Korea is 1.09, about half of replacement rate.

It's not just a small number of women.

When the misfolded protein response triggers cell death, the proteins that activate the response are not, themselves, misfolded. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unfolded_protein_response


oh, it could be worse!

spending time on fake CVEs while people are exploiting real 0days against your system.


ehh, it's Python, it's mostly vibe-based.

https://stackoverflow.com/a/32802486

though there's sandbox: https://jinja.palletsprojects.com/en/stable/sandbox/

it simply predates the "sanitize by default" mindset/convention that nowadays React (dangerouslySetInnerHTML) and Angular has.


... what is understanding of mathematics anyway? if some AI result helps a mathematician to solve more problems I would say then that it gave them some understanding, but just as there are proofs that span hundreds of pages it's likely that soon proofs will be long Lean programs and studying them will be part of mathematics, just as studying Go played by AI.

(see the open (Lean) label for Erdos problems https://mathstodon.xyz/@tao/116987866420438091)


https://davidbessis.substack.com/p/the-fall-of-the-theorem-e...

This blog post talks in depth about what you're talking about. It may interest you. It even talks about the future where math proofs are just Lean programs, and why that won't necessarily be a good thing.

It's worth a read, even if it's long AF.


I have complicated feelings regarding academia, and in general IMHO it's way past due to start focusing on quality instead of hype.

who was first to some kind of novelty? who cares. someone did something but no one can replicate it? intentionally wasting public money. fraud by any other name.

"science" wouldn't move slower if we would build more robust data generating processes.

of course, since usually it's hard to judge quality academia uses proxies. not to mention that the people who could usually are also live inside fancy glassware. and it would be a shame to rock the boat.

... but math is doubly special, because we accepted that it doesn't matter (until it does, but then it's called cryptography and logistics network optimization and high frequency trading, and machine learning), and how long a problem stays unsolved was quite a good proxy.

still, if AI solves the easy ones we can finally have fun with the hard ones!


that doesn't mean much. it has a lot of tests, the architect seems sane, it fits a niche (for example scripts baked into container images don't need full (Node + tsx + esbuild) or Bun/Deno)

Personally my benchmark for a compiler is way higher than "it has a lot of tests". Way higher.

this. it's also insane that some are willing to do anything but use something other than javascript. out of all the languages to die on a hill for...

the only group i noddingly approve of being that programmatically bigoted are the clojure-or-i'm-setting-myself-on-fire guys. they've earned it


>> that doesn't mean much. it has a lot of tests

tests don't mean much if you are not an expert on the subject


> >> that doesn't mean much. it has a lot of tests

> tests don't mean much if you are not an expert on the subject

I think the bet is that the AI is an expert, given the vast literature and open source around compilers.


how would they detect?

natural selection rather quickly fixes this, don't worry


Natural selection in humans is a very long horizon problem.


It also doesn't care about what humans feel to be desirable.

Sure, humans like being healthy and strong and sociable.

But natural selection doesn't care about that either, per se. That's just a small slice of what natural selection can result in.


sure, and there are obvious pitfalls, but IMHO it's much better than going to a 100+ dates and not reflecting on what went wrong/well after any of them.

(tangentially related recommended reading https://danluu.com/p95-skill/ )



Wow what a screed. Comfort-seeking through analysis, categorization, and grand theory of society based on personal experience.

It could be more valuable and interesting to just provide dating anecdotes. I’m not sure there’s value in presenting that experience as a half-digested diagnosis about what’s wrong.

Especially when it comes with so many hidden assumptions about how things have to be and the inevitable projections of their own experiences and expectations onto the lives of others.

Why would you just link it without a comment?


> Why would you just link it without a comment?

I would imagine they linked it because it's a great read and they figured others would be interested. ACX is extremely well known around here, I'm surprised you're unfamiliar.

Scott runs creative writing contests for his readers, this was one of the finalists. I think you're reading far more seriously into a writing exercise than necessary, which I'd imagine is why you were left bothered by it.


I see, so it's not meant to be taken seriously. Missed that context, thanks! I don't know Scott, I'm sure he's a great guy.

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